lugnuts ([info]lugnuts) wrote,

Moving Highways

Everybody seems to know about Route 66, but hardly anyone knows about historical roads of more import than sub-continental 66, such as The National Road, The Yellowstone Trail, The Jefferson Highway or, my personal favorite, The Lincoln Highway. Apparently, while you can get your kicks on Route 66, it's kinda tough to get kicks on US 40, US 65 or US 30. No television shows doesn't help the cause of those other routes, either.

Mr. [info]arcada recently asked about the decommission of federal highways in California. He speculated that part of it might have to do with Interstate highways being nearby. I contacted my friend, Norman, who works at Caldot, to see if he could shed any light on that topic. He replied, "When did all this happen? Soon to be, or very recently? I hadn't heard of it. U.S. 66 and U.S. 99 were changed to State routes several years ago when the Federal Government decommissioned them due to the proximity of recently completed Interstate Routes."

So, [info]arcada was partially correct, the decommission had to do with the proximity of an Interstate highway. As I mentioned before, that isn't always the case, as US 31 runs parallel to I-65, US 65 still runs parallel to I-35 and the Lincoln Highway (mostly US 30 from Philadelphia to Wyoming) is never more than a few miles away from I-80, except in Ohio. US 30 is a major thoroughfare in its own right, but US 65 is little more than a federally funded county highway, used mostly by farmers to move equipment. Your tax dollars at work.

Norman also pointed out (as any good California resident would) that California is the number one donor state, that is, the population of California is large enough that the state sends more gasoline tax dollars to Washington than they get back, and far more than any other donor state. The recipient states receive more federal dollars than they send in, like Nevada. Nevada, where most of the land is owned by the Federal government anyway, has relatively few residents but lots of federal highway miles. US 50, a.k.a. The Loneliest Road In America, runs parallel to I-80 but at least 100 miles south of it. The road connects Ely to Reno via Eureka, Austin, East Gate and Fallon. It also crosses the Navy's "Top Gun" proving grounds near the ghost town of Frenchman Flat.

Norman also confirms that a movement is afoot to promote California 99, recently decommissioned as US 99, to an Interstate highway. It would not be I-99, since numbers that high would be out east, anyway, and I-99 is already out of sequence, assigned, by law, to a highway in Pennsylvania. Norman reports that Cal 99, if promoted to Interstate status, will likely be commissioned as a three-digit number ending in 5, indicating it as an alternate route to I-5. He also indicates that I-7 would also be appropriate and the road could be thus designated.

For those of you who never notice such things, odd-numbered federal highways and Interstates run north-south and even numbered highways and Interstates run east-west. Lowest federal highway designations are in the north and east, highest in the south and west with incremental numbers in between. Interstate highway numbers are lowest in south and west, highest in the north and east. Three digit Interstate designations are bypasses, spurs and alternates. An even leading digit (I-465, I-295) are bypasses and loops that rejoin the parent route and share the parents' designation, where odd digits (I-794, I-580) are spurs.

Such knowledge helps guys navigate without having to stop for directions.

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[info]arcada

August 19 2005, 13:18:07 UTC 6 years ago

I find it intersting that he thinks the new Interstate will be a spur of 5, as many of the X05's are already taken in California.

105 is taken in LA, 205 is a short connector route near Stockton, 305 is the secret, non-signed Interstate designation of U.S. 50/Business 80/SR 99 in Sacramento, 405 is in LA, 505 is a connector route between I-5 and I-80 near Sacramento, 605 is in LA, 805 is in San Diego, and 905 has already been designated to be constructed in San Diego. That leaves, literally, only 705 as a possible designation of the route, which is odd numbered and normally considered spur routes. This would not be fitting as the new Interstate will (in all variations of plans) make a loop with I-5. Also, the route would be several hundred miles long, which is normally a bit too much for a spur route. There is enough justification to grant the new I-9 (as it's designated in the California 99 Master Plan) its own one/two digit number (there are other Interstates such as 12 that are two digits and much shorter). The only other alternative I can see is routing I-405 from L.A. up through the Grapevine, then having it split off so SR 99 becomes I-405, but I don't think that's what they're going to do.

They ran into this problem in San Francisco, where at one point all of the X80's were already taken (this is not the case now). When they wanted to build a new, short connector they couldn't use any of the X80's so they had to come up with a different designation. They settled on I-238, largely because that was the designation of the State Route the Interstate was replacing was 238 (California has a rule that route number, regardless if it's Interstate, U.S. or State can duplicate one another, which may be another reason some of the U.S. routes were decomissioned. For example, the state will not allow for there to be a U.S. 80 and I-80 (both would have existed) at the same time). The use of all the X80's at one point may also explain why one of California's connectors is designated as Business Loop 80, where I-80 used to run (where I-80 runs now through Sacramento used to be I-880). This was also changed due to the reason that what is now Business Loop 80 is no longer at Interstate standard and would need to be upgraded.

Since then, some of the X80's have been decomissioned, so if they were to build a new freeway they could use some of the designations that they used before.

There were also other U.S. routes that were decomissioned such as U.S. 466 that were not by any Interstate at the time (U.S. 466 now largely follows SR 58). There are also other U.S. routes that were decomissioned like U.S. 91 that were also like this, decomissioned with no nearby Interstate (which they don't do in other states).

I think it's odd that California often removed the U.S. routes with close proximation to Interstates, and yet there are many states (more that do than do not) that keep the old U.S. route number even though the Interstate may be right next to it. I think some of this also has to do with the fact that the East Coast is more settled and has more little towns a U.S. route could run through, so they kept it because it can act as a good alternate route if the Interstate happens to be out of commission for some reason.

I've been on U.S. 50 from Sacramento until it connects with I-70 in Utah, and I disagree that it's the lonliest road in American. I believe that honored title belongs to I-10 between El Paso and San Antonio in Texas.

[info]arcada

August 19 2005, 13:50:38 UTC 6 years ago

Three additions to this: I can see them re-routing 305 and making it "public" so it extends down through the Central Valley instead of through Sacramento (if the new Interstate went through Sacramento, it'd almost assuredly overlap 305), but again, that's an odd numbered designation normally associated with spur routes. I've also heard rumors that the Interstate will end at I-5 in Stockton, crossing over the freeway State Route 4 is currently on (which is Interstate standard).

Second: I'm 25, and been looking at road maps since I was about 4, and I have no recollection of any of these old U.S. highways that are currently decommissioned. I've also seen several places that refer to the removal of these routes as the "1964 California U.S. Highway Purge".

Third: I apologize for all the typos in that post. I should have spell-checked something that long.

[info]lugnuts

August 19 2005, 14:16:26 UTC 6 years ago

The Lonliest Road in America

Back in the mid-1980's, Life Magazine ran a feature article about Nevada and it wasn't very positive. US Route 50, which runs through Ely in the east to Fallon in the west, crosses some spectacular scenery, albeit desert. There isn't much to see in the line of the usual tourist attractions, there are no theme parks or water parks. The AAA magazine recommended that no one travel Highway 50 unless they were confident of their automobiles and survival skills.

The tourism folks in Nevada were devastated, especially at a quote in the Life article where they called US 50 "The Loneliest Road in America." The governor saw a silver lining, and shortly after, the state of Nevada officially declared US 50 "The Loneliest Road in America" and even made signs noting that. They created a "Loneliest Road Survival Kit" that includes a map, some tourism information, and a cartoonish map of the route. The cartoon map is on the back of a postage-paid post card. Travelers stop in each of the zones across the state and have their map stamped with "I survived" and signature from the stamper. At the end, the traveler mails the postage paid card to the state, and the state returns a certificate that declares, "I survived the Loneliest Road in America," a bumper sticker and a hat pin that declare the same survival rate.

It was brilliant marketing. I tried several times to take photos of the Loneliest Road but there was always a car in the way. In fairness, I was there at the beginning of the Labor Day weekend and I suspect that much of the traffic was long weekend travelers.

The Loneliest Road in America, 2003 Lincoln Highway Cross Country Cruise "The Loneliest Road In America" as seem through the windshield of Sonja, my 1929 Model A Ford Cabriolet. This photo was taken in 2003 on the 95th Anniversary Lincoln Highway Cross Country Cruise.


Nevada is beautiful in its starkness. The state is divided by several short mountain ranges that all run north-south. A direct route, like US 50, has to cross six mountain passes with beautiful valleys in between. In the days of the Model T Ford, Hickison Summit was also known as "Ford's Defeat" because few automobiles could reach the summit without boiling over.

In these modern days, the easiest way to drive across Nevada is at 35,000 feet in a jet powered silver tube. Most traffic today drives I-80, the busiest of all the Interstate Highways. It is not a direct route, as the road designers elected to follow the northern route that winds around the ends of the previously mentioned mountain ranges. It adds several miles to the crossing to avoid the high summits. US 50 goes straight across and climbs the high summits. With most traffic on I-80, US 50 is, in reality, little traveled.

Given the choice between I-80 and The Loneliest Road, I'll take the Loneliest Road, thank you.

[info]arcada

August 19 2005, 14:47:11 UTC 6 years ago

Re: The Lonliest Road in America

I remember Eureka being denoted as "The Loneliest Town on the Loneliest Road in America". I think it was beautiful in its starkness, but the up and down of the valleys drove me crazy after the first three.

My family occasionally goes down U.S. 50 to Sand Mountain, which is an interesting contrast of the high desert of Nevada with shrubs and bushes and the Sahara like presence of Sand Mountain.

Plus, it's a tons of fun to ride a dirt bike on.

[info]loose_lug_nuts

August 19 2005, 15:47:53 UTC 6 years ago

Re: The Lonliest Road in America

I like Eureka. There are a lot of interesting people there, I suppose they're mostly desert rats and you have to want to live in a place that is that isolated. The people who own the Opera House have spent a ton of money in it, and it is beautiful. I also really like the crazy lady who runs the museum.

[info]bjbass

August 19 2005, 14:58:22 UTC 6 years ago

We may have to institute area codes for our highway designations.

[info]arcada

August 19 2005, 15:02:18 UTC 6 years ago

Area codes change, though.

Either that, or there's a joke here that I'm missing...
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